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Post by vince on Fri May 01, 2009 5:16 pm

Is the hiring of personnel on job-order basis covered by RA 9184?

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Re: hiring of personnel on job-order

Post by engrjhez® on Fri May 01, 2009 8:15 pm

Nope, i don't think so. I believe it is under the Civil Service Law.

But hiring of (specialized) consultants shall be covered either by Public Bidding or by Negotiated Procurement.
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Re: hiring of personnel on job-order

Post by RDV @ GP3i on Sat May 02, 2009 10:39 am

vince wrote:Is the hiring of personnel on job-order basis covered by RA 9184?
If you are referring to "job order" as defined in GPPB Resolution 18-2006 as "employment of individuals to undertake piece or lump sum works, or intermittent jobs of short duration not exceeding six months on a daily basis", the hiring/contract of which shall be governed by relevant CSC and COA rules, not of R.A. 9184.
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Post by BAC Sec. on Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:06 pm

So, in what instances where the job order will be hired by way of a contract of services with HR or through procurement in a form of a PR? Need some clarifications or definitive interpretation...
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Re: hiring of personnel on job-order

Post by msm326 on Wed May 05, 2010 4:56 pm

In our case , it is the HR who facilitate the Job Order contracts because it falls on the CSC rules . If you are referring to by administration projects undertaken , the labor component through JO will the the JO contract for that particular project too.
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Post by BAC Sec. on Wed May 05, 2010 5:19 pm

Thanks...!
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Post by msm326 on Wed May 05, 2010 5:53 pm

you are welcome
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Re: hiring of personnel on job-order

Post by BORDS on Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:31 pm

Purchase Order was signed by the HOPE on the date he was on leave, is it valid

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Re: hiring of personnel on job-order

Post by mari on Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:01 pm

our accountant requires our Admin Section to include those individuals hired by our office on "job order" in our APP. so they go thru the purchase/job order request, RFQ, abstract of quotation, and so on. the admin section abides by her requirements naman po.

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Re: hiring of personnel on job-order

Post by Jovinal on Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:05 pm

I think your accountant was err on treating Hiring of individuals through Job Order Contract as a Mode of Procurement under RA 9184, because in our case we hired individuals on daily wage bases through HRM Office by the issuance of Job Order Contract not through BAC Office therefore not included in APP, the determining factors in this case are the followings:
1) if we are transacting to persons or entities who engaged in business for profit , it is Procurement.
2) if the transaction is employment then it is not a procurement therefore not included in the APP.

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Re: hiring of personnel on job-order

Post by arsbib on Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:46 am

HOw about the labor component of an infra project? the bidder is a group of individuals who came from the locality and not engaged in business, is it covered by CSC rules or GPRA?

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Post by mari on Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:22 am

Jovinal wrote:I think your accountant was err on treating Hiring of individuals through Job Order Contract as a Mode of Procurement under RA 9184, because in our case we hired individuals on daily wage bases through HRM Office by the issuance of Job Order Contract not through BAC Office therefore not included in APP, the determining factors in this case are the followings:
1) if we are transacting to persons or entities who engaged in business for profit , it is Procurement.
2) if the transaction is employment then it is not a procurement therefore not included in the APP.

Thanks.

thank u so much. this was what we, in the office have also been driving at but our accountant insists on treating hired contractuals (thru job order) as "procurement". she has her own policies and interprets the law differently. even the BAC chair and HRMO, though they oppose most of her policies just abide by her "para wala na lang daw gulo"..... the downside of this is that we do consume a lot time and paper and computer ink for irrelevant/unnecessary/unwarranted documents she requires... salamat po.

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Re: hiring of personnel on job-order

Post by toxicresidue on Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:28 pm

RDV @ GP3i wrote:
vince wrote:Is the hiring of personnel on job-order basis covered by RA 9184?
If you are referring to "job order" as defined in GPPB Resolution 18-2006 as "employment of individuals to undertake piece or lump sum works, or intermittent jobs of short duration not exceeding six months on a daily basis", the hiring/contract of which shall be governed by relevant CSC and COA rules, not of R.A. 9184.

By any chance, do you know if a personnel who has a job order employment status can have salary/ be paid during holidays? Any relevant COA rules you have known or read before? thanks in advance.

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Re: hiring of personnel on job-order

Post by toxicresidue on Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:31 pm

For others..

By any chance, do you know if a personnel who has a job order employment status can have salary/ be paid during holidays? Any relevant COA rules you have known or read before? thanks in advance. Very Happy

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Re: hiring of personnel on job-order

Post by firstlady_5167 on Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:53 pm

Good morning to all. Need clarification on the difference between consultant and professional services. The hiring of professional services was done tru NP under SVP with a contract duration of 3 months and 6 months. Is professional services under RA 9184? Thank you.
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Re: hiring of personnel on job-order

Post by Jovinal on Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:17 pm

What particular Professional Services you mean?
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Re: hiring of personnel on job-order

Post by firstlady_5167 on Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:00 pm

Professional services of lawyers,architects, engineers, doctors & agriculturist.
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Re: hiring of personnel on job-order

Post by Jovinal on Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:42 pm

What are the programs/activities in your agency that require their service or what are their scope of services required by your agency?
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Re: hiring of personnel on job-order

Post by riddler on Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:18 pm

firstlady_5167 wrote:Professional services of lawyers,architects, engineers, doctors & agriculturist.

Very Happy Hi 1stLady, kindly refer your concern to your Local Budget Officer because i believed,there is a Budget Circular from the DBM pertaining to wages of the above-mentioned professionals hired as Job-Orders or contractual personnel. Very Happy
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Re: hiring of personnel on job-order

Post by Jovinal on Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:45 pm

Consulting Services. Refer to services for infrastructure projects and other types of projects or activities of the GOP requiring adequate external technical and professional expertise that are beyond the capability and/or capacity of the GOP to undertake such as, but not limited to: (i) advisory and review services; (ii) pre management and related services; and (vi) other technical services or special studies, if the Professional Services you required will not be covered on above criteria on Consultancy you may hire them through Job Orders if the budget is under MOOE and Contractual if budget under Personal Services or from company offering outsourcing services this can be done through Public Bidding under Goods.
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